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Tuesday, July 10

Scamming America With Jesus, Part II


Militaristic "Prophet" Lou Engle Wants 100,000 ex-Gays To Become Faith Healers

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Calling all ex-Gays: You'll Be Faith Healers! 

"Prophet" Lou Engle's latest venture has the rational world reeling: a short video (see below) of the raspy-voiced preacher to teenagers and young adults slam-dunks his homophobia by envisioning an army of "ex-Gays" who've come to Jesus and, with the help of the Holy Spirit, cure AIDS victims around the world. It's all part of his "love" for gays. The hard-core intensity, the vehemence with which he slams his audience of upheld arms, however, belies any real "love" and it is overshadowed by his past militaristic pronouncements:

During his speech at the Christian Broadcasting Network's " Week of Prayer " yesterday, Lou Engle asked for support of his upcoming The Call: Virginia prayer rally, saying that Virginia should fight back against Washington D.C., just as Confederate generals Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson did during the Civil War. General Lee "had an anointing or something," Engle said, "he was able to restrain Washington, he took his stand and held back those force." Engle also pointed to Stonewall Jackson for "rallying the Virginians" against the Union as a model to fight the "homosexual agenda" and the demonic "principalities and powers" behind homosexuality. 


Engle said, "Raise up a stonewall to restrain the agenda that is coming out of D.C."


Engle has had an image problem for two years now: his involvement in Uganda's "kill the gays" bill had him performing some major back peddling tricks to no avail: Christian Right entities in Uganda point to Engle as the guiding light of their proposed legislation along with Rick Warren. He has constantly fought off criticisms that you cannot recruit people to fight the so-called "homosexual agenda" with militaristic terms and calls for criminalization.

100,000?

His directive has left millions of people scratching their heads: "Where the hell is he going to raise up 100 ex-gays let alone a 100,000?" Pray-away-the-gay clinics are being exposed as harmful with their reparative therapy techniques and in California they are banned from practicing those techniques on minors. The nation's largest "ex-gay" group, Exodus International, has now admitted that homosexuality can't be "cured" and are now espousing celibacy. Poster children and former administrators of ex-gay groups are coming out of their ex-gay closets. Numbers have impact, but Lou Engle's numbers have the impact of sheer insanity, unleashing fanaticism on teenagers and third world countries. 

The media response has failed to pick up on Engle's reference to Bob Jones (and his University), a reference that harkens back to misogyny and racism as well as acute homophobia. 

Proposing Scam With Scam ... and Touches of Genocide 


The greater irony in Engle's request for 100,000 ex-gays is that he is promoting a "pray-away-the-gay" scam to form faith healing scams. It is also a vast cover-up of his overseas machinations: the idea that he really "loves" gays must be maintained while he continues to demonize gays to the point of extinction. 

Engle has not, of course, been the first to use the concept of faith healing as a tool for conversions and contempt - televangelists like Pat Robertson come to mind - but he has been the most notable one of late since his pronouncements have such a military and violent bent. 

It must be noted that Lou Engle himself does not deal in faith healing - he lets other perform the entertaining rituals. Perhaps regaling audiences with his visions and "prophecies" is enough: they elicit power, not Bentleys. 

The faith healing industry definitely has a comrade in Lou Engle: he strengthens their image by giving them his imprimatur. But will his raspy voice ultimately make pronouncements that are so outrageous that even his followers begin to doubt his validity? 
Even the world of faith healers has its limits. Doesn't it?


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Rev. Dan Vojir is has been writing/blogging on religion and politics for the better part of ten years. A former radio talk show host (Strictly Books €" Talk America Radio Network) and book publisher, Dan has connected with some of the most interesting people of our time: Steve Allen, William F. Buckley, Alan Ginsburg, Armisted Maupin, Anne Rice, Grace Slick, Bishop John Shelby Spong, Patricia Nell Warren, and Betty White. 
He is also an ordained minister in the ULC and has studied extensively on the subject of the Bible and homosexuality. Additional articles can be read on his blog, The Devil and Dan Vojir. 
Future goals and activities: a new ministry focusing on reaching personal spiritual levels without the outside influence of proselytism or evangelism called The Church of the Inner Preacher. This ministry will be included in a new website The Devil and Dan Vojir. 
Vojir's main goal: to root out hypocrisy in religion and politics. "If only one person is saved from being killed or bashed by inane bigotry, then I'll have accomplished what I was put on earth to do: To Live and Help Live." 

Monday, July 9

Scamming America With Jesus


Why Faith Healers Are Immoral And Bad For Health Of The Country

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  Part I of a three part series

The Monday Sermon: Are Faith Healers Bad For Your Health?


Pat Robertson began his ministry as a charismatic - a faith healer. He was also the first "prosperity gospel" preacher (calling it, however, "reciprocity" faith). People who first donated to his "700 Club" honestly believed that they would receive returns hundredfold and the poor were disparaged because they didn't "believe enough." His image as a healer was tarnished a bit when he opted for heart surgery in 2009, cries of "heal thyself" not withstanding. But as recently as February of 2011, Robertson hosted a   mass faith healing of an audience , telling people how important it was for people to give to the  700 Club   and its causes.


The Entertainment Industry Of Faith Healing


It has long been said: America has made a religion out of entertainment ... and an entertainment out of religion. Pat Robertson discovered that early on when he became one of the first truly successful televangelists to utilize cable TV.* Others followed suit and empires were built out of promises of prayer to heal everything from hemorrhoids to cancer. The TV shows then gave  rise to videoed rallies, the size and scope of which have been the envy of dictators. Today's Benny Hinn Ministries rallies are held in stadiums. And as we shall see, the rallies have actually increased in size and number, despite the number of exposes attempting to reveal the totally fraudulent enterprises.

Derren Brown's   Miracles for Sale  is probably the most astounding expose of the world of faith healers: he actually trains a man to be a "healer" with tricks done by magicians, hypnotists and inside-the-scam experts, for example, using partially-sighted people for "the blind see" and the use of music as a subliminal tool.  Anyone who views this hour-long video realizes how profoundly manipulated people are into believing in Word of Faith. It features heartless mass manipulation through skulduggery and shills and outright sham: it uses entertainment as a most insidious tool. 

Miracles for Sale   is a searing dismantling of the genre that every American should view regardless of faith or denomination. It is something that Pat Robertson and Benny Hinn don't every want you to see. Since its production, it has had only several million viewers in the U.K. and only 170,000 views on YouTube. Hardly a viral hit.

So why aren't the exposes successful in shutting down the faith healing industry? Perhaps because they are telling people things they don't want to hear ... or believe: a "man of God" would never scam them or lie to them, would he? 

The Immorality Of The Faith Healer


It is normal to place the machinations of someone like Benny Hinn into the category of scam artist and dismiss his immorality as based on greed. His "falling bodies" are entertaining and many people deem him as harmless (see video below). But the fact remains that faith healers have an immorality all their own: they use faith - albeit mostly blind faith - to scam people, people who are innocent in their gullibility or desperate in their quest for a cure. Faith healers are bad for the country's economic and mental health; like grave robbers, faith healers rob the coffins of people who are dead of reason, while raising false hopes to heights that fatal when fallen from. 

In the next parts of this series, we'll be looking at some of the ridiculous claims and events put on by today's faith healers, proving that exposes have had little effect upon the country's attachment to them and bringing to the fore the question: so what do we do about these guys? Here's an over-the-top proposal that matches the over-the-top tenor of the situation. It's amusing, but worth a thought. 

"100% Healer - Guaranteed!" Certification: An Idea Whose Time Has Come?


Let's face it: the only way to prevent scams by any entity is to keep tabs on it by regulating it. Organizations like the   Consumers Union  can do only so much to prevent people from falling into scams. And failure of Christianity in policing its own is obvious: denominations may frown upon faith healing, but do very little to discourage it. Pat Robertson, for example, was ordained as a Southern Baptist, but he is a charismatic, something which the Southern Baptist Convention does not recognize. It also does not recognize glossolalia (speaking in tongues), but some Southern Baptist churches have a decidedly Pentecostal bent.

So if people don't want to wind up waiting in line just to become one of Benny Hinn's human dominoes, it may be time to have our healers ... certified.

Think of it: an agency with a list of "certified" faith healers, people you can go to with a modicum of confidence, and with the knowledge that you won't be totally ripped off. It's implausible, of course, given the tenure of "freedom of religion" these days, and total irony would ensue: the people who scream at the very thought of Separation of Church and State would be demanding its enforcement. But such an agency would be a practical solution to protect people from fraud. It would work in this way: 

In order to be "certified" a faith healer would have to produce a certain amount of sworn testimonials with accompanying medical records that have been screened by a medical panel. The records would present before and after statements of conditions and diseases indicating marked improvement or complete cures not accomplished by normal drugs or procedures; in other words, proof that a change has occurred in the patient due to remedies other than the ones provided by medicine. It would be the most air-tight method of weeding out shills. The same qualifications would apply to all other types of "healers" outside the medical community. If you want to say that you're a "healer" in any capacity, you'd better be certified or else face charges of fraud or false advertising. 

Yeah, wishful thinking is sublime, isn't it? Yet the imagination reels in thinking just who would be able to be certified: certainly not people like Cindy "Japan-is-shaped-lie-a-dragon Jacobs", who offhandedly claimed that she "cured" a woman of her hysterectomy. None of Hinn's dominoes would could forth to offer testimonies either. And falsifying medical records is a felony. 

OK, so "certification" would be merely a ridiculous idea of treating a serious subject of scamming, but does anyone else have a better idea to keep the faith healing industry in check?
Next: Lou Engle Wants 100,000 Ex-Gays To Become Just Like Him. 

  

*It has often been quipped that the only true miracle Robertson has ever seen is when he went on cable TV and extracted money from people whom he had convinced were dumber and crazier than he was. 


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Rev. Dan Vojir is has been writing/blogging on religion and politics for the better part of ten years. A former radio talk show host (Strictly Books €" Talk America Radio Network) and book publisher, Dan has connected with some of the most

Tuesday, March 20

When It's Not God's Plan: 8 Things to Say to Grieving Nonbelievers

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Believers or nonbelievers alike may need a refresher on these important points.

If you know someone who's grieving a death, and they don't believe in a God or in any sort of afterlife, what do you say?

A lot of religious and spiritual believers find themselves stymied, at a loss for words, when the atheists and other non-believers in their lives are grieving. The comforts and consolations they're used to offering, and that they rely on themselves, don't do much good with atheists and other non-believers. "It's all part of a plan." "I'm sure they're smiling down on you now." "You'll see them in the afterlife." Etc. At best, these notions are useless for atheists: at worst, they're actually upsetting.

Some believers behave very badly at these times. It's all too common for religious believers to use death and grief, and the heightened vulnerability that comes with it, as an opportunity for proselytizing. And when confronted with the reality that non-believers usually aren't comforted by religious sentiments, believers often get churlish and defensive: insisting that grieving non-believers should be comforted when believers offer religious platitudes, and getting irritated or even outright hostile when we don't.

But many believers are entirely sincere in their desire to console the non-believers in their life. They care, they sympathize, they mean well. They genuinely want to help. They just don't know how.

Which is understandable. Even some non-believers have a hard time knowing what to say to the grieving non-believers in their life. Many atheists were brought up in religion: they've been brought up framing death and grief in religious terms, and dealing with it with religious customs. And in American culture particularly, our social customs around death are very much rooted in religion. So when atheists reject those customs, they often don't know what to replace them with.

So what, specifically, can people say -- or do -- to comfort and console the non-believers in their lives who are grieving?

There is no one right answer to this question, no answer that's going to be good for all people and in all situations. What you say or do with people who are grieving can, and should, vary tremendously depending on the situation: how close you are to the person who's grieving, how soon it is after the death that they're grieving, their unique personality, your unique personality, the nature of your relationship with them. And, of course, the unique nature of the person who has died, and the nature of their death, and the bereaved person's relationship to them, is going to affect what you say and do with someone who's grieving.

But I recently took a survey of readers of my blog, and of members of the Grief Beyond Belief online support group on Facebook, asking this question, and asking people what they'd found helpful in their grief. And a number of common themes cropped up quickly. If there's a non-believer in your life who's grieving a death, and you're at a loss about what to say or do, here are some good places to start.

1. "I'm so sorry."

This is the core of it. Express empathy. Your friend/family member/colleague is grieving, and you feel bad about it. Say so.

You don't have to be creative about the wording. When people are stymied in the face of grief, often they say that they don't just want to spout stock phrases. But some experiences are so common as to be near-universal, and it's okay if the words you choose are common as well. At times in my life when I've been grieving, I heard versions of "I'm so sorry for your loss" probably hundreds of times... and every single one of them meant something to me.

2. "I remember when... /My life is so much better because of..."

In the face of death and grief, we often have a reflex to shy away from discussing the person who died. We think it'll be too painful, that it will make the loss too fresh or immediate.

But many grieving people say exactly the opposite. They want to hear stories about the person who died. They want to know that the person they love will be remembered, and missed. This is true for anyone -- but it may be even more true for atheists. Atheists don't generally believe in an afterlife: for us, the only thing we have that approaches immortality is the work we've done, the memories people have of us, the ways the world is different because we were here.

So tell stories. Talk about how the person who has died touched you. Talk about something sweet they did, something brave, something generous, something funny. Talk about how your life is better because they were here. Say how much you admired them. Say that you'll miss them. (Assuming it's true, of course.)

In the conversation on my blog, a commenter with the handle Grim described the humanist funeral of her grandmother in a very positive way: "We were there to remember her as she was. We shared stories and anecdotes, acknowledged the role she'd played in our lives and we remembered her and that's the best thing, I think. To be positive, to remember the good (and bad) and to know that the person had an influence on our lives." Others shared their experiences. Tamsin had a very specifically atheist and humanist take on this as well: "I was also very moved when one of Mum's friends from her childhood told me that he didn't feel that Mum was entirely gone -- not in the sense of her spirit watching over us or whatever -- but because he kept noticing bits of her -- a turn of phrase, a facial expression, an aptitude, a firmly-held belief -- in me and my sister."

When RedSonja spoke at her father's funeral, "I shared something a friend had told me when I mentioned that I felt I could talk for hours, but we didn't have that kind of time; she said 'You were lucky to have had a father that you can speak of for hours with love. Not everyone does.' And I talked about how Dad was still with us; in his books, his jokes, his family members." Dea commented, "When I lost my grandma last year, the most healing experience was talking with other people about their memories of her and especially their feelings about how she impacted the lives of those she loves. Because that is where the dead live on -- in our hearts, our memories, and if it was family -- our genes. Whenever I see a trait of my grandmother in one of my aunts, or even in myself, I wonder if that was part of the (obviously unconscious, but no less valued) inheritance she left to us. I find comfort in these thoughts."

Steve Bowen said that, when his father died, "the best and [most] memorable comments were from people who had known my father in situations we did not share in common; little anecdotes and insights into his character that made me smile and remember the living, loving, gregarious man he had been and left me feeling that I knew him even better than before."

Kemist said, "I lost my best friend to cancer this summer... For us, the thing that helped most was our being together, and our sharing our memories of my friend. Can you actually believe that we all laughed when her father told us of some silly stunt his daughter did?"

And Julia Burke told a story of keeping memories alive in a very down-to-earth way: "My mom's beloved brother ("Ben") died at 21 after a car accident; she was 17 and devastated. Among all the kind words, memorials, and events, one gift stood out. Ben's girlfriend compiled a journal of his favorite book quotes, poems, passages, and stories, as well as material of his own; Ben was a gifted writer with a passionate love of language and literature, and the journal was packed with words that had touched him and words of his that had touched her over the years. Today, over forty years later, my mom can pick up the journal and enjoy her brother's wit, intelligence, and sensitivity. And though her children never knew their would-be Uncle Ben, we can pick up the book and spend a little time with his memory -- we even share many of the same favorite writers. I can't imagine a better gift for a grieving person, atheist or otherwise. In the throes of a gut-wrenching loss, knowing that a loved one will always be remembered and that his or her passions, talents, and quirks touched many lives can be a powerful comfort -- one rooted in this world and this life."

3. "What can I do to help?"

Grief can be exhausting. It can make it difficult to manage everyday tasks, such as cooking and cleaning. So make an offer of practical help: one that's appropriate for your relationship. Nothing says "I care about you and am sincerely sorry for your loss" like vacuuming, babysitting, or making a pot of homemade soup and freezing it into a dozen Tupperwares.

When he spoke about his father's death, BT Murtagh had nothing but praise for his father's friends who would "cut my Mum's grass, clean the rain gutters, all manner of small practicalities." Sambarge said, "For a closer/good friend, I'd add meals delivered to the house, visits where I vacuum the floor and wash dishes and time spent just talking about the person or the weather or whatever the grieving person wants, basically." Denise agreed: "If I know the person/family more closely, I'm inclined to lean more toward action anyway. What do they need? Are small children involved who could be babysat while attending to post-funeral stuff? Would a house cleaning service be helpful for a couple of months? How is the person/family faring with food, since cooking is not often on people's minds at time of loss...?"

And Don F said, "There were three things people said that I found the most useful when I was grieving my fiance's death: 'I'm so sorry for your loss.' 'I know there's nothing I can say that will make you feel better.' 'Let me help by [doing something useful].' Those useful things included taking care of my house and my children while I couldn't, making sure I was eating well, and listening to me talk about what happened and what Bonnie had meant to me."

Now, it's important to be aware that not everyone will want this help. Some people find routine chores to be comforting during grief, giving both distraction and a sense of normality and continuity. But many others will want, and need it. It's a good idea to make the offer of help as concrete and specific as possible.

As Grief Beyond Belief founder Rebecca Hensler pointed out, "Sometimes, particularly in the first days of grief, answering the question, 'What can I do to help?' can itself be a burden. Offering to do a particular task, for example, 'Can I come by and pick up your laundry?' avoids the moment of panic when the grieving person realizes that she can't even remember what needs to be done, much less do it. Keep in mind as well that a person grieving a spouse is often forced to take on that spouse's responsibilities in the midst of grief. For example, if your grieving friend's wife was the one who always dealt with automobile maintenance, temporarily taking over car-related tasks may be most helpful."

4. "This sucks."

All too often, people who are trying to console the bereaved go overboard trying to offer consolation, perspective, philosophies and insights that might somehow magically make the grief disappear. It's an understandable impulse: someone you care about is in pain, you want to take that pain away.

But when someone is grieving, and the people they care about keep framing the death as not such a terrible thing after all?

That really doesn't help. It can make it seem as if you're trivializing the death, and the depths of their grief. It can wind up making you the center of attention instead of them, prioritizing your desire to be the bringer of solace over their need to just go through their grief. And it can make it seem as if you don't want to deal with it: like you're trying to make their pain go away, so you don't have to look at it. As katiehartman said, "Don't recite platitudes that are meant to minimize or 'give meaning' to the death. Just don't. Philosophizing can feel shallow, distant, or like an attempt to move on to another topic."

So let them grieve already. Let them know that you know how bad they feel. Let them know that feeling bad is entirely normal and reasonable, and that you have compassion and understanding for just how lousy they feel. As Saro Jane said, "For me, the most comforting was simple and along the lines of 'I'm so sorry, that really sucks. I'm thinking about you.' Acknowledge that the loss is sad and shitty, let me know you care and are thinking of me. Done." And w_nightshade concurred: "My best friend (also a non-believer) lost his father last year. He said afterwards that what he wanted to hear more than anything was 'That fucking sucks.' An acknowledgement that he was hurting, and that was his right.

5. Just listen.

Jonathan said this perfectly on my blog, so I'm just going to quote him: "I think people obsess about the proper thing to say, when the real issue is figuring out the proper way to listen. The reality is that if someone is grieving, you don't have to say anything. In fact, there's nothing you can say that will make things better. If some one is grieving, all they need to know is that you understand their grief, that you empathize with what their going through, and that you're willing to shut the hell up long enough to let them express their grief."

Again: If you go too far trying to offer comforts and consolations, it can start to seem like you're making it all about you. This can especially be true when religious believers offer religious comforts to atheists. It becomes less about the atheist's grief and the ways they're struggling to manage it within their own world view, and more about the believer being wrapped up in their own beliefs... or worse, using the vulnerability of grief as an opportunity to proselytize. What's more, too much consolation can start to seem like you're trying to shut the grieving person up.

So listen. Let them talk. Ask questions about how they're doing... and listen to the answers, really listen, for as long as they want to talk. As anteprepro said, "There may not be a need to shove platitudes down their throats at all, you may just need to let them get things off their chest without reflexively trying to get them to minimize their sadness in the name of comforting them." And as Axxyaan said, "They have a right to feel as awful as they do and if that makes you feel uncomfortable, bear it or leave. Don't give in to the urge to fill up the silence. Just being there for the other in silence is often more comforting than whatever you say."

6. Offer company.

Grief can be very isolating. Especially when the person who died was a spouse, child, or someone else very close to the bereaved person, who they saw every day or were in regular contact with. So offers of company -- a sympathetic ear, a shoulder to cry on, meaningful activities, silly distractions, depending on the person and your relationship with them -- can make a huge difference. Helen said it very well on my blog: "After 1-2 weeks, start actively inviting the mourning person over for a glass of wine and a chat, or for going together for a swim, or whatever quiet activity you used to do once in a while together (especially if they lost their spouse or someone they were sharing their life with on a daily basis). Don't be offended if they say no because it's too early, and don't insist by saying 'But you have to get back to normal', but keep calling once in a while."

7. Keep offers of assistance going, even after the initial shock of the death has worn off.

There's an all-too-common pattern that many bereaved people report. There's a huge outpouring of help and support in the first days and weeks after a loved one dies, sometimes even more than they can manage... and then, as the weeks wear on, the help dwindles. But people's grief, and their difficulty managing their lives as a result of it, can last long after the initial loss and shock. Sierra said this very well: "Everyone asked how I was holding up the first week, the first month. A couple of years later, only a few, select people ask me that, and it means a hell of a lot more now than it did then, because it's an acknowledgment that losing my family still sucks." And Alice agreed: "Call or check in on people after the memorial service, and keep doing it over the course of the first year, when all of the 'first snowfall without ___' moments will hit."

So remember to stay in touch, and to keep offering help, even after the first few weeks. A dozen Tupperwares of frozen homemade soup the week after someone dies: that's very good indeed. A dozen Tupperwares of frozen homemade soup three months after someone dies -- that's beyond awesome.

And very importantly:

8. Let the grieving person grieve in their own way.

There isn't one right way to grieve. Different people do it differently. Some people take some time to intensely experience and process their grief; others quickly plunge into work and other distractions. Some people are somber; others handle their emotions with morbid humor. Some people get overwhelmed by their emotions; others distance themselves from them. Some people feel especially sad at anniversaries or birthdays; others barely notice these landmarks, but get upset when some small thing happens to remind them of the person who died, or when some momentous new occasion happens that they wish they could share. (I'm not sure I even remember my mom's birthday anymore... but when Ingrid and I got married, it made me intensely sad that Mom couldn't be there, and that the two of them would never get to meet.) If a relationship with the dead person was complicated, some people will focus on remembering the good things, while others will get angry over past hurts, or be filled with disappointment over lost opportunities. Etc.

None of these is wrong. So take your cues from the grieving person themselves. If they're crying, hold their hand and let them cry. If they seem exhausted and overwhelmed, offer practical help. If they're railing against the injustice of the universe, rail with them. If they're making sick jokes, laugh. And if you're having a hard time reading their cues, just ask them flat-out, "What do you need?" Offer multiple options: "Do you need a shoulder to cry on? Do you need help around the house? Do you need someone to take you out to a dumb movie to get your mind off things? Let me know." As Sylvia Sybil said, "I've found 'How have you been doing?' to be a good question... It allows the mourner to either segue into discussion of the death and their feelings, or to talk about the less personal activities of their daily lives, as they please."

What's more, some people will go through some or all of these experiences at different times in their grieving process. And different people go through grief at different paces. Most grieving people say that grief never goes away entirely -- my own mother died over 30 years ago, and I still have moments when her absence from my life hurts like major surgery. But some people manage the worst of it quickly, and are functioning in their everyday lives fairly soon after the death. Other people need more time to return to their routine. And again, none of these is wrong.

If you're concerned that someone's grief is triggering serious clinical depression -- if exhaustion is shading into paralysis and torpor, if someone's life is seriously disintegrating and they aren't managing it at all -- that's different. That may well call for some sort of intervention, depending on your relationship. But don't go the "Sheesh, it's been three months/ six months/ a year, and you still haven't gotten over it, what's wrong with you?" route. There's no reason that your timetable should be their timetable. And again, it can read as if you're uncomfortable with their grief, and are trying to make it go away so you don't have to deal with it.

So does it seem as if this advice doesn't just apply to atheists? Does it seem as if most, if not all, of these guidelines would be just as useful when dealing with religious believers who are grieving? Does all this seem like just ordinary human compassion, with some common sense and understanding of human nature applied?

If so -- yes. You're absolutely right. Human beings are human, and while atheists and believers do commonly have very different approaches and philosophies about life and death, we're still the same species, with the same basic set of emotions. And in fact, many grief counselors advise that, even if a bereaved person has religious beliefs, it's not always a good idea to bring them up when they're in the depths of their grief. Even for someone who does believe in Heaven or a divine plan, it can seem trivializing and dismissive to hear "You'll see them again soon enough" or "Everything happens for a reason."

So if you're wondering what to say to grieving non-believers? Say exactly what you'd say to grieving believers. Just leave out anything you might say about God, or souls, or an afterlife... and let us know that you want to help us, and that you're sorry for our loss, and that we're not alone.

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Tuesday, July 26

Does god Really Heal?

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By vorjack on in Christianity, Medicine.

The following post was submitted by Jeremy Wells, AKA the Not So Friendly Atheist, who blogs about the logical flaws in religious arguments.


Does god really heal? This is a simple question that I put to the test when I was a Christian- the results convinced me to abandon religion. One of god’s promises is that he will heal all believers that pray for it. This is one of the foundational beliefs in religious doctrine. Certainly god should honor his word in this area, but does he?
Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up.
If he has sinned, he will be forgiven. Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective. (James 5:14-16)
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